TW and Chris T-T on TinternetRadio

Here’s the fan recording, it’s approx 35 mb’s (Empty At The End live at the start)

TW and Chris T-T on TinternetRadio 5 June 2008

Read the transcript here – Click link to read it all but here’s TW’s quotes…

Who are you, where are you, and what are you doing here?


Hi Thomas, how you doing?

Yeah good, I’m a bit hot now I’ve sat down in my jacket. Just sat on the floor in Roy’s little radio studio where I slept last night along with various other people.

Did you have a good kip?

Yeah I did actually. I kind of overslept a bit, I woke up and everyone had already had breakfast.

Thomas White from Electric Soft Parade and Brakes Brakes Brakes and any other band you could care to think of that he’s been involved in…

Brakes Brakes Brakes – I forgot we were were supposed to be called that in certain parts of the world.

It can confuse some people, because there is a Brakes the bakers.

The caterers, yeah. They actually use exactly the same font as we did on our first record. It’s good, it’s like we were advertising for them and they were advertising for us. Spreading the word.

It’s great to see you guys here, Tom obviously welcome to Tinternet Radio towers, it’s our humble little studio here.

It’s brilliant, it’s a good little place.

So you’re on a bit of a solo tour at the moment although you’ve got back up with Chris T-T and the band. How’s it going for you?

I’m supporting him really, or I’m meant to be supporting him. I wangled some headlines out of it.

How did you and Chrissy T hook up?

Chrissy T? That’s brilliant, adlibbing names. Well we know eachother from Brighton.

Chris T-T: We’re having a good time I think, one of the interesting things is like Thomas is playing very varied sets, like sometimes he’ll be really quiet and acoustic with a twelve string guitar, other times he’ll be with a laptop playing almost electro dance music, and other times when I’m trying to be interviewed, he’ll sit playing on a pink toy piano and play some cute tunes. That is the best piano I’ve ever seen, I have to say.

Tom, are you soundchecking right now?

I’m just having a go, pretty good. It’s only duo-phonic poly…

Little pink piano we’ve got going on in the studio here.

It only does 2 notes at once.

That’s brilliant, we could remix that and make that the next record release maybe, sample it and chuck it on a track.

Do your worst…

So you’re going to be at Wolverhampton then at the Little Civic.

It’s rotten tour planning really on the part of somebody.

As in scaling one end of the country and then going back to the Midlands…

Going York, Glasgow, Hull and then Birmingham, Wolverhampton, kind of defeats the point of doing a show in either because it’s like 2 minutes away, you know. A gig’s a gig, even if it is in the worst venue in the world.

Am I right Tom, your parents are both teachers?


So obviously your upbringing must have been quite outstanding. Did you duck out of school for a bit and probably get taught by Mum and Dad, musically, or…

No no… well my Dad’s kinda musical, he plays a bit of piano, infact he can read music and me and my brother can’t. Well my brother kinda can. My Dad plays clarinet and a bit of piano. Me and my Mum keep trying to persuade him to be a writer because he writes fiction, short stories and stuff and they’re really good.

Going back to the tour, obviously The Glee Club was the show last night.

Nice place, I hear the guy at the venue was saying a lot of comic’s try out new material there which is why they had the full on sign on the wall saying no cameras or anything, no youtubing people. Lee Evans basically did try outs for his new world tour, did like a week or a month of residency. And they’ve got Dylan Moran there and stuff. And good shows as well, good little place.

You performed a track called Blue It Is by Billy MacKenzie, tell us about that, it was just beautiful.

Yeah it’s just a tune he wrote on Beyond The Sun, I haven’t actually heard the album it’s off, just got recommended it as a tune to cover.

Oh wow it’s just too gorgeous. For listeners on Tinternet Radio who don’t know who Billy MacKenzie is, Tom White’s gonna tell us all about that.

He was the singer in The Associates, seminal 80’s band. They’re a brilliant band.

And their classic anthem was…

Club Country or Party Fears Two.

Very nice, festival season’s upon us. The Truck Festival, are you back at the Truck festival? It’s always a good weekender isn’t it.

I’ve been roped into it, I turned down my offer and somehow I’m still doing it. I got offered a slot and I said I didn’t want to do it and I’m now doing it which is really annoying. I wanted to not do it.

It’s a fairly new festival isn’t it, in Oxford.

It’s been going 10 years, if I play this year it’ll be my sixth year running which is just too much. It’s too disgusting.

Describe the idea behind the Truck festival. The whole thing is set up on a big truck?

It’s on a flatbed Truck and there’s a stage and a bar. It’s really good and the Rotary Club make real stingy portions of pasta with a little bit of pesto mixed in and some cherry tomatoes.

You’re quite a chef, aren’t you really, Tom? A secret chef?

And banana milkshakes, smoothies. A little wine stall. And a bar where all the barmen are cross dressers. The main bar, they always cross dress. There’s always that guy dressed as Madonna…

What’s all that about?

You see the same people each year and every year they just get a bit more knackered looking, just a bit more disgusting. It’s a great festival but it’s very debauched in a kind of middle class Oxford way. You know what I mean, lots of naughty things happening.

And other festivals, obviously you’re at Beautiful Days this year with The Levellers celebrating 20 years in the music induustry.

Don’t they look it, every day.

Obviously you’re good mates with Mark Chadwick, lead singer of The Levellers. How are they celebrating this year.

Same as every other year I think, every day with Chadders isn’t it.

And other festivals, you’re going to be hooking up with Brakes and ESP later this year?

Yeah we’re doing Doctor Loft Festival in Spain.

What’s that?!

Some festival on a beach in Spain, sounds good.

Here we are at Tinternet Radio camp, Tamworth-on-Sea, we’re in the studio.

Where’s the sea? I’m from Brighton, I don’t see a sea. I don’t smell the sea.

Well we’re based in the Midlands, we’re a bit closer to the coast than you actually realise. Tamworth has got a silent sea, it’s inbetween the M and the W. I’m just making it up as I go along. Here we are at Tinternet Radio towers with Tom and the posse. He’s on tour, he’s got a brand new record release out at the moment called I Dream Of Black. Tell us all about that Tom.

It’s not out just yet, it’s out in a couple of weeks.

I read a blog that the album was produced in a basement of a townhouse somewhere deep in the suburbs of Brighton, reading inbetween the lines it sounded like it was an awkward place to record an album but listening to the album – brilliant.

It was really cold, it was in a garage in the basement of my girlfriends house and it was just freezing. There was no heating in there, they wouldn’t let me put the heater on because it cost so much. So I’d kind of go down there in bursts of 45 minutes until I couldn’t feel my feet and then go back upstairs and warm up and then go back down and do a bit of recording. It was alright when you’re drumming but trying to do vocals you’re just stood there for hours on end it was quite painful. I like the idea that a record sounds wintry or summery depending on the time of year it was made.

So you must be really proud of the end result then?

Yes and No. Every record, as you’re finishing it you’re like yeah this is just right and with hindsight you could always go back and improve things forever. But I kind of had to just get it out as it was because I hadn’t done that before you know. Every record I’ve ever been involved in has been a democratic process involving loads and loads of people and record labels and A & R people so it was really nice to just do a record and not have to worry about any of that.

Greets Chris, what are you messing around with?

I’m in the process of trying to film your interview with Thomas in order to put it on youtube and humiliate him. Unfortunately my phone camera had not very much memory so I only managed to get a little excerpt of the interview.

Thomas White on T’Internet Radio

Here’s the fan recording:

Thomas White on T’Internet Radio May 18th 2008

Here’s the interview transcript – click to read in full. Some quotes:

T: Got a tour going in the next few weeks with Chris T-T, which’ll take us pretty much around the country so I’m preparing for that at the moment.

Excellent, sounds good, and tell us about Chris T-T, who is Chris T-T?

T: He’s kind of, in the best possible way, he is a protest singer, a lot of his songs are protest songs – very cutting, articulate protest songs. People have had a go at at him for it but I think it’s a dying art really, a lot of people tend to shy away from politics because it puts you on the spot as a listener, it forces you to have a reaction to it. When so much music these days is about satisfying peoples expectations and living up to an expectation that someone has, whereas his stuff really does push your idea of what a song can do and it makes you think which is great. He supported Brakes a few years ago on tour and we’ve played with him since and it seemed like a really good thing. I think he had the tour booked already and I just kinda snuck on there. It’s gonna be great, he’s a great guy. He’s a Brightoner as well so we know eachother.

Tell us about the gig you’re appearing at with Mark Chadwick and Jason Pegg?

T: I hooked up with Jason yesterday – I was on all the posters, I’m on the Joogleberry website and all that but no-one had actually told me that I was doing it but somehow I got booked and it’s all happening but no-one had actually made the call. So they did yesterday and I am actually doing it. I’m looking forward to that, we’re going to have a rehearsal in a couple of days. The idea is we’re gonna choose 5 songs each of our own and then everyone’s gonna learn them and help out and all that.

We’re also looking forward to seeing you in Birmingham very soon.

T: I believe we’re doing The Glee club. That should be a barrel of laughs…

It’s a really nice venue if you’ve never been there before.

T: No, I’ve never done it, I’m looking forward to it. We’ve only ever done The Barfly and Academy and that. Is there one called The Hare And Turtle, Pint Of Beer or something? I don’t know, some little pub.

Is it just going to be you and Chris T-T?

T: I think some of the nights will have a local support on first but it’s just me and ‘im travelling round in a van, it’s gonna be great. I can’t wait, the weather’s beautiful, it’s gonna be a proper start of the summer sort of tour.

How many bands have you been involved in over the years mate?

T: This friend of ours Paul, he’s been trying to convince me to do a Brighton Rock Family Tree. I had a go and it’s insane. It started when I was about thirteen, I played drums for my mate Duncan, his band, whilst me and Alex were getting our first band together. I just got asked to play drums and from then, every couple of years someone will go “oh do you fancy helping out on this project that’s happening” and then suddenly it’s a band. Like I say that’s the way Brighton is, it’s not a big deal. That’s how the musicians down here work.

And how is Alex, how is your brother?

T: He’s doing well, he’s alright, currently he’s been roped into The Pipettes to help write their new album and he’s playing drums for them and helping them get their second record together. It’s just that typical Brighton thing where people help their pals out. The Pipettes have been mates of ours for years, we helped ‘em out on their first recordings, before they were signed and stuff… There does seem to be a lot of girl groups around at the moment like that kind of sweet 60’s vibe you know, there’s a hell of a lot of bands doing that thing. The Pipettes got there first! They’re the first revivalists. They’re a great band.

When can we next see The Pipettes? I keep looking around the festival season and can’t seem to find them billed on any of the gigs at the festivals.

T: They haven’t even finished their new record yet. They’re taking it easy, they’re writing at the moment, they’re all just working up in London and writing their new record and it’ll be ready when it’s ready you know.

Tell us about your new record release.

T: That’s coming out June the 14th, it’s on Drift records, that’s a little label based out in Stroud, they’re great. It’s called I Dream Of Black and it’s kinda psychedelic but acoustic, a bit folk, it’s good though, that’s what I’ll be playing on this tour.